As one of the leading pioneers for space industry and first female space traveller， Anousheh Ansari believes it is necessary to develop affordable space travel， “it is actually establishing a base for human beings on our planet”。

　　作为太空行业的领军者和首位进入女性太空游客，阿努什认为发更加亲民的太空旅行非常有必要，“这是在为人类打基础”。

　　In 2006， Anousheh became the first female space traveller into the International space station， where she spent 10 days joining the experiments and blogs。 But she prefers to call herself a “space participant”。 15 years later， the space industry has rapidly changed， Anousheh said it is “an exciting moment” for the new prosperity of the space industry。

　　2006年，阿努什成为首位前往国际空间站的女游客。在国际空间站的10天，她参与了试验项目还亲自写博客。但她更愿意称自己是“太空参与者”而非游客。15年后，太空行业发生巨变，面对太空行业的新繁荣，阿努什直言“这是令人激动的时刻”。

　　Beside the space industry， as CEO of XPRIZE， Anousheh is focusing on carbon removal competition 2021。 XPRIZE foundation， which is a leading foundation of inspiring innovation， has set this $100 million challenge for the team who gives the best solution for carbon removal。 Anousheh said that our current technology is behind the speed of climate change， if we want to solve the problem through innovation， “and if we don‘t use them， they’re not going to solve the problem by themselves”。

　　除了太空行业，作为XPRIZE基金会的CEO，阿努什目前正在忙着炭移除挑战赛。作为鼓励创新的基金会，XPRIZE设置1亿美元的奖金，激励提供最佳炭移除方案的队伍。阿努什认为目前的技术远跟不上气候变化的节奏，想要解决环境问题，只能通过创新，“如果我们不用技术，技术不能自我改良。”

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　　Q： So let‘s talk about space industry first， all right？You’re a big fan of the Star Trek series。 So who is your favorite character？ And which is your favorite episode？

　　我们先聊聊太空行业吧，你是《星际迷航》系列的粉丝，你最喜欢哪个角色，最喜欢哪一集？

　　A： I‘m a big fan of Spock。 He was the science officer on board starship Enterprise and had really great ideas to solve problems。 So I really identify with him coming from a science and education background。 I have many favorite episodes， especially the movies I like。 But there was an episode I think it was called naked time and it sort of was a very human episode。 Spock being involved and controlling and not showing emotion。 And in that episode， it sort of showed the other side of him。 And even though he wasn’t demonstrating emotions that there‘s a lot inside each person that is important。 And sometimes it comes out and I think it shows the human relationships that exist， even in a place where emotions have no place。

　　我是史波克的超级粉丝，他在“企业号”上担任科学官，他有解决问题的想法和头脑和科学教育背景，这让我很认同他。我有很多喜欢的剧集 尤其是电影，但是有一集 应该叫《the Naked Time》（星际迷航系列第一季第四集）。这是非常有人情味的一集。史波克平时控制自己，不会轻易展露感情。在那一集他展现了自己的另一面。尽管他没有表现出情感，但每个人内心都有很多重要的东西，有时候它会显示出来。即使是在一个情感匮乏的地方，它展示了人类关系。

　　Q： Have you watched the tv series called the Space Force last year？ It‘s a comedy about the workplace， middle age crisis， and also the china- america competition。 We have so many funny clips from the show， the big scissors to cut the satellites。 And so what do you think about the China and America space competition？

　　你看过《太空部队》这部电视剧吗？这是一部关于职场、中年危机和中美太空竞争的剧集。里面有很多有趣的名场面，比如用大剪刀剪卫星。你怎么认为中美的太空竞争呢？

　　A： To be honest with you， I believe space belongs to humanity。 And I think as human beings， as a human race。 We will advance in space much faster if we collaborate。 I have， if you look at the history of human space exploration， you see， it has been actually a uniting factor， even though it was a competition。 But when conflicts on earth sort of flared up， space was a place where everyone from every country。 Back then during the cold war， the US and Russia， for example， they could come together because I think space unites that‘s all and we can relate to each other。 I’ve worked with many astronauts from different countries。 I was in China when the first Chinese astronaut went to space and have had the privilege of meeting any of the people in the Chinese space agency。 I know from people involved in the program， the astronauts， the people behind the scene， everyone also believes in collaboration。 We don‘t see us competing with each other。 We see us as comrades and collaborators and friends and all after the same mission。 It is the governments who make it difficult。 They put rules and regulations and barriers for everyone to come together。 So I hope one day everyone will see that and will be able to actually collaborate on building new ways of going to space， new launch systems， new international space stations that include China and other countries and perhaps an international moon base or mars， where we all work together。

　　老实说，我相信太空是属于人类的。我认为，人类作为一个族群，如果我们合作，将会在太空领域取得更快的进展。你回顾人类太空探索的历史是一个团结的过程，尽管也有很多竞争。当地球上爆发冲突时，太空是一个每个国家都会出现的地方。比如在冷战期间，两国能够走到一起，因为我认为是太空团结了一切，我们可以互相联结。我和很多不同国家的宇航员一起工作过。中国第一位宇航员进入太空时，我在中国有幸认识了中国航天局的很多人。我从参与项目的宇航员以及幕后人员那里了解到，所有人都相信合作的力量。我们没有看到彼此在竞争，我们视对方为同志，合作者和朋友，大家都在完成同样的使命。是政府让合作变得很困难，他们设定了规章制度让人们遵守。因此，我希望有一天，每个人都能意识到这一点，能够真正的协作，共同建立进入太空的新方法，新的发射系统，包括中国及其他国家的空间站，或者还有国际月球或者火星基地，我们可以共同努力。

　　Q： You went to the international space station as a space flight participant， Instead of a space tourist。 You spend 6 months on ground training and 10 days on the space station working and experimenting with an astronaut。 Recently， 2 billionaires joined the spaceflight club， Mr。 Bezos and Mr。 Branson。 What do you think about their space flight？ So what‘s the major difference between you and them about space flight？

　　你作为太空参与者而不是太空游客前往国际空间站。你在地面进行了半年的训练，在空间站待了10天，参与工作和实验。最近，2位亿万富豪，贝索斯和布兰森也进行了太空旅行。你怎么看待他们的太空飞行？你和他们的飞行最大区别是什么？

　　A： They both approved what was called suborbital flight， it‘s basically a glimpse of space and a very short experience of weightlessness。 But still， I think it has an important impact。 Going to orbit， spending time on a space station。 It’s not for everyone。 I‘m discriminating， but it requires a lot of training。 It is a lot more dangerous。 You have to be in very good physical health and state。 It requires a certain level of dedication， and not everyone would like to have it。 But if you look at people who climb Mount Everest， there are those who are very serious and they go to the peak。 And those who hike to the base。 I see a suborbital flight and an orbital flight like comparison to a base camp to the peak。 It doesn’t diminish the value of it hike to the base camp。 It‘s still an important experience and difficult。 But going to the peak has an exponentially higher degree of training and danger is involved with it。

　　他们都进行了亚轨道飞行，这基本上是非常短暂的失重体验，但我仍然认为它有重要的影响。进入轨道，在空间站度过一段时间，并不适合所有人，这并不是我歧视。这需要大量的训练，还伴随着危险。你必须有非常好的身体健康和状态，需要有一定的奉献精神。这不是所有人都有的条件。但如果你对比看看攀登珠穆朗玛峰，有些人非常严肃认真，他们登上了顶峰，也有徒步到大本营的人。我认为亚轨道飞行和轨道飞行，就像是攀登山顶和到达大本营。徒步到大本营并不会降低它的价值，这仍然是重要的经验，而且过程也很艰难。但登上顶峰伴随着指数级的训练和危险程度。

　　Q： A lot of things happened during the past 15 years， 20 years， the new spaceship， new space suit。 What is the future of space traveling？ Do you think it‘s necessary to develop affordable space traveling for ordinary people？

　　过去15年到20年发生了很多事情，出现了新的太空非常和宇航服，太空旅行的未来会是什么样？你认为有必要发展让普通人也能负担得起的太空旅行吗？

　　A： I fundamentally believe that space exploration is actually establishing a base for human beings on our planet。 It is important for humanity’s future。 So access to space and reducing the cost of access to space， increasing the safety of access to space becomes a very important component of that longer term desire and mission。 I also believe there are great business opportunities and there is great benefit for us on earth to develop our technologies in space。 Right now， we have sort of perfected the rocketry way of going to space。 I hope that maybe XPRIZE will be involved in it to create new technologies and new ways of access to space， something， a new propulsion system perhaps because we need a quantum leap in technology， in order to really be able to advance humanity in space and really advance space exploration。 So I really hope that we can， again， true collaboration， because the best innovation comes from every corner of the world。 And we‘ve seen this at the XPRIZE， our teams are international。 We have teams who are made of members from different countries that meet online and virtually collaborate。 There is no reason why we can’t have the best minds around the globe， working together to come up with new ways of accessing space。

　　我从根本上认为，太空探索实际上是为人类打基础，这对人类的未来非常重要。因此 ，提供进入太空的渠道和降低进入太空的成本，提高进入空间的安全性，成为这一长期愿望和使命的一个非常重要的组成部分。我也相信在太空中发展我们的技术，对地球上的我们来说有着巨大的商机和巨大的利益。现在，我们已经在某种程度上完善了进入太空的火箭。我希望XPrize能参与其中，创造新的技术和新的进入太空的方式，比如一个新的推进系统。因为我们需要技术上的飞跃，以真正能够推进人类在太空中的发展以及真正推进太空探索。所以我真的希望我们能够再次真正的合作，因为最好的创新来自世界的每一个角落。XPrize有国际化的团队，我们的团队由来自不同国家的成员组成，他们会通过网络进行远程合作。没有理由说我们不能拥有全球最优秀的人才，一起想出进入太空的新方法。

　　Q： You mentioned SpaceX， and we also have Virgin Galactic， Blue Origins， Those star players in the space industry。 But we also have some very brilliant young companies with all types of business。 Do you think it is the new prosperity of the space industry right now？

　　你提到了SpaceX，还有维珍银河、蓝色起源，这些太空行业的“明星选手”，但还有一些非常出色的初创公司，他们开展有各种类型的业务，你认为现在是航天事业的新繁荣时期吗？

　　A： I think it‘s a very exciting time in the space industry。 XPRIZE had this vision when my family and I sponsored the first competition， Ansari XPRIZE， and our hope was that it will really spur a lot of new innovation and open up and create this new excitement about space。 And thankfully， we succeeded and we’ve seen how the industry has completely changed and involved。 And the private sector has been a big part of that collaborating with government agencies and bringing innovation and space exploration are good examples of that。 But I also see a lot of new startups。 There‘s a lot of new investment going into these new companies。 We’re looking at taking the industry to the next level， to standardizing and commercializing technologies using launch systems， for example， satellite imagery， satellite sensing systems have become so small and affordable that we can have a whole new set of technologies and businesses that come from those technologies， orbiting our planet， whether it‘s looking at our own planet or looking outward， and sort of helping us understand and better study our own planet， which helps us understand ourselves better and also better understand our universe， which also answers a lot of questions about us。 So this is just the beginning， just like the early days of the internet when with Netscape and technologies that came after， access to the internet became easy and something that people play ground for innovation。 I think space is at that stage right now。 As we allow or open up access to more， people will come up with new ideas that we can’t even imagine， right？ It will be transformational for humanity。

　　我认为这是航天工业非常激动人心的时刻，当我们的家人和我资助第一场竞赛安萨里X大奖赛时就有这个愿景，我们希望它将真正激发出许多新的创新，并激发和创造关于太空的新的动力。谢天谢地，我们成功了。我们见证了这个行业如何彻底改变和变革。私营公司一直是其中很大的一部分，私营公司与政府合作 带来创新和太空探索就是很好的例子。但我也看到很多初创公司，这些公司进行了很多投资。我们正在考虑将该行业提升到一个新的水平。例如，利用发射系统实现技术的标准化和商业化；卫星图像和卫星传感系统已经变得价格亲民，围绕这些技术，我们能够开发新的技术和商业。围绕我们的地球，不管是向内看地球还是从地球往外看，让我们更好地了解和研究我们的星球。这帮助我们更好地了解我们自己，也更好地了解我们的宇宙。这也回答了很多关于我们自身的问题。这只是个开始。就像互联网的早期一样，随着网景公司和后来技术的出现，访问互联网变得容易，这是人们创新的基础。我认为太空正在处于这样的阶段，我们进行更多的探索，人们会有难以想象的创意改变人类。

　　Q： One of the ideas from the opposite said it is a waste of time and money for a rocket launch in solving problems on earth。 I think the problem here is how to make sure that space technology can improve ordinary life and other industries。 What is your idea about that？

　　反对者认为，发射火箭就是浪费时间金钱，而不是去解决地球上的问题。问题的关键在于如何更好地让太空技术改善我们的生活和其他行业，你怎么认为呢？

　　A： I fully believe in that I think it has already from the beginning， from the early days。 And I think the issue is a lack of awareness。 I think the media can play a huge role in creating awareness on how space technology has already significantly affected humanity。 If we look at all of our communication systems， our entertainment system， the GPS systems that we used to get around， a lot of health technologies， a lot of new light materials that are used in our clothing， in other devices， fire retardant material。 There‘s so much studies and research and innovations and inventions that come from space， the whole space industry that I think people just take it for granted。 They don’t know that this technology they‘re using， for example， the ATM machine or when they’re using the navigation system。 They don‘t think that this has something to do with space。 And I think if we can create that awareness， they would see the benefit and support more。

　　我一直坚信于此，从一开始太空技术就已经改善了（我们的生活和其他行业）。问题是大家缺乏感知，我认为媒体可以发挥巨大的作用，让人们认识到太空技术已经对人类产生了巨大的影响。如果看看我们所有的通信系统、娱乐系统，我们的GPS系统，很多的健康科技，很多新的轻质材料都应用到我们的服装和其他设备中，比如防火阻燃等材料，有很多的研究和创新发明都来自于太空。我认为人们忽视了太空行业的作用，他们并不了解自己使用的技术，比如说ATM取款机或者导航系统，他们不认为这与航天有关。如果我们能够建立这种意识，他们可以看到更多益处 从而更加支持航天工业发展。

　　Q： I also notice that the space industry also changed how people think about science and knowledge。 In the past， we just celebrated the new rocket launch。 We have so many social media users。 We want to talk about space technologies。 So what is actually benefit and result from that？

　　我还注意到太空行业也改变了人们如何认识科学和知识。过去，我们只是庆祝火箭升空。现在很多社交媒体用户开始讨论太空科技，这会带来什么好处和影响？

　　A： Like you said， they need that awareness of the new technology。 Absolutely， my interest in science and engineering as a young girl came from my love of astronomy。 I looked at the night skies and it sort of became this mysterious place I wanted to know more about。 And my desire to learn about what was up there and when I looked up at night became this obsession for me and a source of inspiration to want to learn astronomy， learn physics， and it has opened up this whole new world of possibilities for me that I wouldn‘t be there if I didn’t get curious about space and astronomy。

　　就像你所说，他们需要意识到这种新的技术。当然，当我还是个年轻的女孩，我对科学和工程的兴趣来自于对天文学的热爱。晚上我仰望星空，它变成了我想要探索的神秘之地。当我晚上抬头看的时候，我渴望了解那里有什么，这对我来说成为了一种痴迷，也成了我想要学习天文学和物理的动力。它为我打开了全新的世界的可能性。如果我不对太空和天文学产生好奇，我就不会走到这里

　　Q： One of the problems is the absence of females in the space industry。 So how to promote and encourage more females joining this space industry？

　　太空行业面临的问题之一是女性的缺失，如何促进和鼓励女性参与到太空行业中？

　　A： That‘s a great question， and something that’s top of mind for me。 Not only in space， in general and technology。 I’m an electronic engineer， computer science major who has been involved in the tech industry for most of my life。 I see a great need for more women to be involved and in general more diversity in all the stem fields， all the technology fields and including space。 If you look at the number of people who belong to space right now about maybe totally somewhere around， I think 500， maybe 30 people have flown to space。 And only about 10% of those are women。 I‘m actually very encouraged when I looked at the astronaut class that NASA has selected， and there are 50 percent of women。 I think things are changing。 And one thing that I found very effective in encouraging young girls to be interested in space is to have role models in the past， even when women had contributed to advancement of science their names have been erased from history and they have not been sort of at the forefront of shining a light on their accomplishments。 There haven’t been a lot of role models for young girls to look at， but times have changed。 Now they can read and see how great women in our history have made a difference in the world， in this world of science and technology and space。 I hope that will encourage them to see a future for themselves in those fields。

　　这是一个很好的问题，也是我最关心的问题。不光是航天业，包括其他科技行业。我是一名工程师，主修计算机科学，一生中大部分时间都投身于科技行业。我认为更多的女性需要参与进来，所有的理工科 ，所有的技术领域，包括太空，都需要更多元化。如果你看看现在总共约有500名左右宇航员，可能其中30人去过太空，仅仅有10%是女性。当我看到NASA挑选的宇航员时大约有50%都是女性，我对此很受鼓舞。我认为情况正在发生改变。我认为树立榜样对于鼓励年轻女孩对太空产生兴趣是非常有效的方法。在过去，即使女性为科学进步做出了贡献，她们的名字也会从历史上抹去。她们也没有站出来展示她们的成就。对于年轻女孩来说，没有太多的榜样可以借鉴。但时代变了，现在她们可以读到并看到，伟大的女性在科技和航空领域，在我们的历史中是如何改变世界的。我希望这将鼓励她们在这些领域看到自己的未来。

　　Q： Let‘s move on to environment problems at XPRIZE。 XPRIZE is organizing the carbon remove challenge 2021。 I noticed that Mr。 Elon Musk also joined this project。 Why draws his attention？

　　我们聊聊环境问题和XPRIZE。XPRIZE正在组织碳移除20201挑战赛。我注意到马斯克也参加了这个项目。这场大赛为什么会吸引他的注意。

　　A： I think Elon， in general， is absolutely very interested in space。 You can see that the other side of his work has been very much focused on the environment。 The companies he created are around solar energy， renewable energy， and Tesla。 Actually， the electric car that has revolutionized the automotive industry， I think it demonstrates his conviction of creating a sustainable environment for humanity。 So for us and for him， I think it was a natural sort of desire to support innovations that will make our world a better place for future generations。 And right now， the most pressing issue that we face here on our planet is climate change and global warming。 So this competition， the $100 million carbon removal competition， It‘s an audacious prize。 It is the largest centralized competition that has been launched。 There is a way to solve our biggest problem， which is that our planet is getting hotter and hotter。 We are moving toward renewable energy and changing our behavior， but it’s not happening fast enough to stop the climate change and the temperature rise to below the 1.5° we desire。 So the only way to solve this problem is to take carbon out of the atmosphere or the oceans。 And to do that at scale， we need to， based on the MC report it was estimated that we need to move about ten gigaton per year by 2050。 Our technologies are nowhere near there right now and not on that trajectory。 So this competition is intended to really accelerate innovation in that area。 So we can get to a place where we can remove the CO2 and make sure that our planet doesn‘t plunge into a place that will not be habitable for human beings。 We see wildfires， we see temperature changes and extreme weather all over the world。 I think that the debate is about whether our climate is changing。 Everyone knows they can just go outside and look around and see it’s changing。 So now we need to really focus on solutions。

　　总的来说，我认为埃隆，他对太空绝对非常感兴趣。你可以看到他工作的另一部分一直关注环境问题。他创建的公司围绕着太阳能、可再生能源。实际上，电动汽车彻底改变了汽车工业。我认为这证明了他为人类创造可持续发展环境的信念。因此，对我们和他而言，我认为支持创新是一种自然的愿望。这将让我们的世界成为对子孙后代而言更美好的地方。现在我们在地球上面临的最紧迫的问题是气候变化和全球变暖。所以1亿美金的碳移除竞赛，是一个大胆的奖项，是已经启动的竞赛中最大的奖项，来解决我们最大的问题——那就是我们的地球正在变得越来越热。我们正在迈向可再生能源并改变我们的行为。但转变的速度还不够快，不足以阻止气候变化，并把气温上升控制在1.5°以下。解决这个问题的唯一方法就是把碳从大气或海洋中清除出去。为了在规模上做到这一点，根据MC报告，到2050年 我们每年需要消除大约100亿吨碳。我们现在的技术离这个目标还差着很远。因此，这场比赛旨在真正加速该领域的创新。我们可以达到一个目标，消除二氧化碳并确保我们的地球不会变得不适合人类居住。我们看到了山火，以及遍布全球的极端天气。关于我们的气候是否正在变化的辩论，每个人都知道，只需要出去看看就能看到这种改变。所以我们应该真正专注于解决方

　　Q： Some people said they want to start aggressive actions or changes， because we can feel and watch the extreme weather like， the wildfire in California and the flooding in China recently。 Do you agree with them？

　　有人想要更加激进的行动和改变，因为我们能感受和看到极端天气，比如加州山火和中国最近的洪水。你同意他们的观点吗？

　　A： So we need some more aggressive actions。 I do believe we need aggressive action。 We need collaboration frankly。 We need countries to work together to solve this issue。 Part of the problem in the past， it‘s been that we have become a society that is only looking at the short term。 We are only concerned about maybe one to two， maybe if we’re very advanced 5 years ahead of time， you can‘t reverse climate change by looking at the next 5 years。 You have to have a long term view。 Also， a lot of things require behavior change， and behavior change is always difficult and lastly。 again， because we’re short term thinkers。 And when it comes to our businesses， where profit driven and not just long term profit， but short term profit driven， all of these creates an environment where aggressive solutions for climate change have failed to take hold。 I think we need to change our thinking first， in order to be able to advance the technologies， technologies are coming along and will be there and conditions like the express carbon removal。 Competition will even advance those technologies further。 But if we don‘t adapt those technologies， if we don’t， if you‘re not willing to pay for implementation of those technologies。 And if we don’t use them， they‘re not going to solve the problem by themselves。 So we need innovation， but we need the governments and the people supporting those innovations， investing in and implementing them。 We can get a better future for all of us。

　　我们需要更积极，更有进取心的行动，我相信我们需要积极的行动。坦率地说，我们需要合作。我们需要各国共同努力解决这一问题。在过去，我们成为了一个只关注短期问题的社会，我们只关心近一两年的事情。如果我们非常有前瞻性，大概也就提前5年。你不能通过只看5年后的事情来逆转气候变化，你必须有长远的眼光。而且很多事情需要改变行为，行为的改变总是很困难的。归根结底，我们是短期思考者。当涉及到业务时，我们是利润驱动的，并不仅仅是长期利益而是短期利润驱动我们。所有这些都造成了一种环境，在这种环境中，积极的气候变化解决方案未能站稳脚跟。我认为我们需要先改变思维方式才能够推进技术。科技正在取得进步，并且能够运动到碳移除上，竞争甚至会进一步推动这些技术的发展。但如果我们不采用这些技术，如果不愿意为这些技术的实施付费，如果我们不使用技术，技术不会自己改善问题。所以我们需要革新，但我们需要政府和民众支持，投资并实施这些创新。我们可以为所有人创造一个更美好的未来。

　　Q： XPRIZE is famous for inspiring innovation。 How does XPRIZE find its own advantages？

　　XPRIZE以鼓励创新出名。XPRIZE如何找到自己的优势？

　　A： So we have learned that when you have a big problem。 If you focus the world‘s attention， if you shine a light on it， if you unpack the problem， and describe it in a way that people understand the components of that problem。 And then look at it with a hopeful lens that this is the problem。 Here’s all the issues， whether all the barriers， but there are also possible solutions to fix it。 And then incentive eyes， those solutions。 So we shine a light on the problem。 We bring the world‘s focus and attention to it。 We put a price and create a competition for the first team who can solve the problem。 We’ve seen that really， that focus on attention alongside that incentive and our secret source of designing a competition where we don‘t actually tell you how to solve it。 We tell you what we want you to solve。 You can go about the solution however you want。 We leave that completely up to the innovators。 That has helped us bring people from every continent。 Usually we have people representing around 150 countries when we launch a competition and we see the numbers from other parts of the world growing as our name。 Our reputation makes it across the ocean to other continents。 So we love to see more and more people involved because traditionally， some of our best solutions have come from people who are outside the field that have a different way of looking at the problem and unpacking it so they’re not burdened by their past knowledge。 They usually can come up with completely different approaches and solutions。 So I hope that we can get the word out there。 I hope your audience will hear about XPRIZE and get careers and go to our website and look at XPRIZE.org or can see some of the competitions。 And if they are passionate about solving some of these big problems in the world。 They form their team and the passionate desire of an innovator is the first ingredient to moving forward and then investment， and then money， and the rest comes afterwards。

　　我们明白到当你遇到一个大问题，如果你凝聚世界的注意力，如果你让问题呈现出来，把问题分解，用人们能理解的方式描述组成问题的部分。然后用充满希望的角度来看待“这确实是个问题”，这是所有的问题，或者说是所有的障碍，但也有解决问题的可能。激励的眼睛会去寻找解决方案。我们将这个问题呈现出来，我们将世界的注意力吸引过来。我们给出一个价格，为第一个解决问题的团队创造了一个竞赛。我们设计比赛的秘密来源是我们不会告诉你如何解决它，而是告诉你我们希望你解决的问题是什么，你可以用自己的方式解决问题，我们将这一点完全交给创新者。这帮助我们吸引了来自各大洲的人。当我们发起一场比赛时，通常会有大约150个国家的代表参赛。随着我们名声飘洋过海到了其他大洲，我们看到来自世界其他地区的参赛人数在增长，我们乐于看到越来越多的人参与进来。因为传统上 我们的一些最好的解决方案来自于领域外的人才。他们用不同的方式来看待并分解问题，他们不会为过去的知识所累，他们通常可以提出完全不同的方法和解决方案。所以我希望我们能把话传出去，我希望你们的用户能够知道XPRIZE，去我们的官网看看，或者参加一些其他的竞赛。如果他们热衷于解决世界上的一些重大问题，他们可以组建自己的团队。创新者的激情是前进的第一动力，然后是投资，是钱，之后才是其他的事情。

　　Q： You and XPRIZE want to bring some real changes to make this world better。 That‘s not an easy job， and it’s not easy， a very long journal actually。 What is the biggest challenge for XPRIZE and your team？

　　你和XPRIZE想带来真正的改变，让这个世界变得更好。这不是一件容易的工作，实际上非常漫长和艰难。你和XPRIZE的最大挑战是什么？

　　A： Our internal， our biggest challenge right now is to be able to get our foundation recognized all over the globe at the scale where we can have enough funding to launch our programs。 We have great， amazing ideas already。 We have created， summed up the best minds and researchers and scientists around the globe， who help us identify the biggest issues in the world and design really effective competitions。 We would love to launch these competitions and we need funding to do that。 So we hope that by getting recognized in different communities， by different people， different companies。 We will have an opportunity to launch more and more competitions for more innovation in order to solve these big challenges。 We have a wildfire competition right now， for example， wildfires are burning around the globe。 We have an amazing competition design looking for funding for that。 We have a coral restoration competition that is intended to restore all the corals that we lost and where we are halfway there and we need more funding to launch that。 We have a lot of environmental education and health competitions already designed and ready to go。 So I hope that we can get more people interested to be able to launch this competition。

　　我们的内部现在最大的挑战是能够得到全球各地基金会的认可，以获得足够规模的经费来启动我们的项目。我们已经有了很棒的想法，我们有全球最优秀的头脑、研究人员和科学家，能帮助我们找出世界上最大的问题，设计真正有效的比赛。我们很乐意推出这些竞赛，我们需要资金来实现。我们希望通过在不同的社群，不同的人群，不同的公司中得到认同，我们将有机会推出越来越多的竞赛。我们需要更多的创新来解决这些巨大的挑战。我们现在有山火比赛，比如，全球各地山火频发，我们有一个很棒的竞赛设计，这个项目目前在寻求资金支持。我们有一个珊瑚修复比赛，目的在恢复我们失去的所有珊瑚，项目已经开展一半，需要更多的资金来启动。我们设计了许多环境教育和健康竞赛并已准备就绪，所以我希望能有更多的人感兴趣，从而能够启动竞赛。

　　Q： You talk about passion in our conversations。 Is passion your biggest driving force to keep carrying on and how does it help？

　　我们谈到了热情，热情是你最大的驱动力吗？它对你有什么帮助？

　　A： I believe so， I think without passion， nothing else matters。 I think passion for an entrepreneur， or an innovator， is that fuel that drives you through the hard time， drives you through all the difficulties that you may face。 Because especially when you‘re doing something big， you’re bound to hit the wall， You‘re bound to have problems and issues and you’re bound to fail at times。 So if you don‘t have that passion， that energy， that core energy inside you， that fire burning inside you， you’ll give up and you won‘t follow your dream， you won’t follow your finish line。 That‘s why I think passion is important。 It has to be something that really matters to you， that you’re willing to give up a lot of things in order to achieve it。 And it has proven to me throughout history that those who really have that burning fire and desire inside them can really do incredible， impossible things。

　　我相信是这样的，我认为没有激情其他一切都不重要。对于一个企业家，一个创新者而言，激情是帮你度过艰难时期的燃料，让你克服所有的困难，特别是当你准备大展拳脚的时候，你一定会碰壁，一定会遇到麻烦和问题。有时你肯定会失败，所以如果你没有那种激情，那种能量，你会放弃，不再追随你的梦想，你也不会到达终点。这就是为什么我认为激情很重要。它必须是对你来说真正重要的东西，为了实现它 你愿意放弃很多东西。我发现，历史中那些真正拥有燃烧之火的人，真的可以做出不可思议和被认为是不可能的事情。

　　Q：Thank you very much for having you today and accept my interview request

　　非常感谢你接受我的采访。

　　A：My pleasure。 Thank you for the time。 And it‘s really hope to see a lot of innovators from China competing for our competition。

　　我的荣幸，也非常感谢你抽出时间。我真心希望看到很多中国的初创者参加我们的比赛。

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